incidents, big, mass murders that he's had to deal with. and there's been murders in cities all over the country, chicago, his hometown. but he's dealt with fort hood, tucson, aurora and now newtown. are we seeing more mass murders? or are they just becoming more agreejous and despicable? why are we seeing four under this president? >> we've always been a country of violence and gun violence. but it does seem to be that, in this way, hollywood, system of these horrible with violence and movies and on cable television and all, we've become a nation of violence. and, in some ways, eating popcorn and you watch it and it doesn't matter. but this one, when it's babies being slaughtered, i think is even different than fort hood and different than tucson. this is something that gets at what it means to be a human being and our country has to do something. >> well, it's scary that we entertain with bloodshed.